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December 14, 2017 at 5:41 pm in reply to: Unsteady Dynamic Model? What is it? #11111

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The definition of dynamic is “(of a process or system) characterized by constant change, activity, or progress.” It shows up throughout the H&H world, for example, HEC-RAS is a “hydrodynamic” model. Meaning it models the dynamics (i.e., changes) of a hydraulic system.

I would not get too caught up in it’s use or where it ‘fits’. Dynamic generally refers to unsteady flow modeling with a hydraulic model (e.g., HEC-RAS). The word ‘dynamic’ is sometimes followed by the word ‘routing’, because the model is routing (i.e., moving) flow through the system while accounting for changes in conveyance (flow) and storage (volume) ‘dynamically’ in space and time. So I think the word ‘dynamic’ is used loosely as a catch all for a model that simulates changes or a system that experiences changes over time and space.

Instead of focusing on the word dynamic, focus on learning the difference between Unsteady state hydraulic routing (i.e. typically this is what dynamic routing / modeling refers to) and hydrologic routing (for example using Modified Puls in HEC-HMS). Hydrologic routing is generally a simplified ‘version’ of Unsteady state hydraulic analysis, but can give similar results depending on the situation. In some situations where the system (i.e. river, etc.) is complex, hydrologic routing simply can not model the complex ‘dynamics’ of how water moves through and is stored in the system, so you then use Unsteady state hydraulics.

Hope that helps. If anyone else wants to chime in to give a more specific answer / opinion, I’d be interested to see what others think.

Regards,

Lee

November 13, 2017 at 9:02 pm in reply to: HEC-RAS 5.0.3 Move Cut Line Upstream/Downstream #11005

ldguethle
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Issue is known and should hopefully be addressed in the next update.

November 10, 2017 at 5:33 pm in reply to: HEC-RAS 5.0.3 Move Cut Line Upstream/Downstream #11004

ldguethle
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Yeah unfortunately it appears they broke this great feature… Been meaning to email them a bug report about it…

Lee

November 3, 2017 at 6:48 pm in reply to: Merging water-surface profiles from adjacent streams #10982

ldguethle
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How much is the difference in depth/elevation at the boundary b/w the two floodplains?

You could do a combined 1D/2D model where the channel is 1D up to the banks and the shared floodplain is 2D. Whether this is acceptable depends on whether your project and client (and FEMA in this case?) will accept a combined 1D/2D model.

November 3, 2017 at 6:43 pm in reply to: Extend the High Ground cross sections? #10984

ldguethle
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The advise to extend your cross-section will generally work if you have a floodplain with an increasing cross slope where eventually you have ground elevations greater than your water surface elevation.

However, if you keep extending your xsec and the ground is essentially flat, or you have a ridge and then the ground slopes down / away with the water surface above the ridge, then you may need to convert all or portions of your overbanks to 2D to best represent those areas. If you get into this situation as a beginner, it’s best you have someone review it and provide guidance. If you are not using unsteady and thus can’t use 2D, then it gets more challenging/less accurate but it can be accomplished in steady flow.

October 27, 2017 at 7:11 pm in reply to: Flow Change at Bridge #10963

ldguethle
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Hey Andy,

Couple thoughts:

– Change the internal culvert xsec to represent the culvert (would typically do this in unsteady, unsure how much benefit it would provide in steady) or if you really think the channel is not going to get washed out in these events consider a using a blocked culvert. Roughly 1/3 of the culvert area is lower than the xsec invert, which a lot of times would cause major issues.
– Consider a lateral/distributed inflow along the lateral structure instead of a single point inflow. Or consider moving the point inflow to xsec 1.
– Start the lateral structure after xsec 1. basically give xsec 2 a break, there’s too much happening at the culvert
– Confirm that the ridge in your left bank should not be blocked/leveed
– Lower your ineffective areas at your deck a bit below the deck. Having them match the deck exactly is begging for trouble (at least in unsteady – maybe not such a big deal in steady).
– Use HEC-RAS 1D-2D unsteady! ok ok I guess that is not an option w/ FEMA or your project…

Good luck,

Lee

October 24, 2017 at 4:18 pm in reply to: Flow dividing among 2 branches and joining downstream #10956

ldguethle
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Yes it is possible to model this situation.

If performing steady state, you can use Split Flow Optimization to help define the % of flow for each reach. Personally I would use unsteady state if that’s an option.

Make sure you have junction lengths and cross-section layouts done properly or you will get poor results. Also check whether you have overflow between reaches (between junctions) and if so, you may need to add lateral structures.

October 19, 2017 at 4:23 pm in reply to: Can storage area be an upstream source for a reach? #10955

ldguethle
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Yes it can but be sure there is a good reason and that the resulting hydrograph in the reach is realistic, as well as the resulting stage in the storage area.

October 18, 2017 at 4:28 pm in reply to: XS with Lids – water surface rises through deck #10952

ldguethle
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Agree it is unstable so there may be an issue unrelated to the lids. Check HTABs. Also, looks like you chopped off the edge of the culvert? It should come to a point assuming this is an arch culvert?

October 12, 2017 at 4:33 pm in reply to: Can 1d cross section cut lines and 2d area boundary intersect? #10938

ldguethle
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Yes, though be sure not to overlap too much or you will potentially double count volume (if the xsec station-elevation data is generated from the terrain). Also think about how you will lay our your lateral structures. In a perfect world the xsecs and lateral structures would snap to the 2D boundary edge. But some minimal overlap or gaps are generally ok.

Cheers

October 10, 2017 at 4:19 pm in reply to: RAS RASTER to Google Earth #10928

ldguethle
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Only way I can think of it is to make a Web Map Service (WMS) using RAS TileServer and link Google Earth to it. TileServer will need to run on your computer, or if it’s on another computer/server, you’ll need to make sure you can access it through Google Earth.

October 4, 2017 at 4:27 pm in reply to: Normal Depth o Rating Cuve? #10918

ldguethle
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I have not had the opportunity/need to use a rating curve. However, generally you would use a downstream rating curve if:

– you have a control structure that either can not be modeled or you don’t want to model it
– normal depth is not matching up with a known, trusted rating curve at a cross-section (i.e., a USGS rating curve at a gage)

October 2, 2017 at 8:13 pm in reply to: x and y co-ordinates of shear stress #10910

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Glad to see you making progress.

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Got your files. Something is fishy. It instantly crashes for me as well.

I think your terrain file must have something wrong with it…. Send me bo=
th your original terrain file (ArcGIS raster zipped or if it was a TIF/JPG)=
and the RASMapper generated terrain files (TIF+VRT+HDF). Zip it all up.

Alternatively just zip up your whole model. =3D)

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Thank you Lee. .tif file is not even 1GB. Its only 20 MB. I will try with o=
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Got your files. Something is fishy. It instantly cra=
shes for me as well.

I think your terrain file must have something wrong =
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(TIF+VRT+HDF). Zip it all up.

Alternatively just zip up your whole model. &nb=
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Well based on that it should be small and no problem for ArcGIS…

Go to http://www.wetransfer.com<http://www.wetransfer.com> and you can send your f=
ile to me. Send the TIF and VRT. Email is lvongynz-guethle at pape-dawson d=
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Cheers

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Thank you Lee. .tif file is not even 1GB. Its only 20 MB. I will try with o=
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