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  • in reply to: Unsuccessful Unsteady Simulation #8463
    Eli_Bro
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    Thanks again. I went looking for the draw-down exercise and did find the how-to that I think you were describing. I followed the steps and so far haven’t had a calm moment to see how to analyze the results and fix the problem. But as expected the draw-down run did crash.

    http://hecrasmodel.blogspot.com.br/2010/12/how-to-create-hotstart-file-in-hec-ras.html

    I checked out the curves for my model as described in this post and found many of my sections have these types of discontinuities in the conveyance curve. Obviously I need to study up!

    http://hecrasmodel.blogspot.com.br/2012/12/htab-problems-with-using-drawdown.html

    in reply to: Unsuccessful Unsteady Simulation #8461
    Eli_Bro
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    Thank you. Yes those drops are intentional. The reinforced concrete canals between the culvert outlets and the river will be designed to have maximum flow velocity of around 3.5 m/s. So preliminary, I took the peak flow from each culvert and did a quick calculation in a spreadsheet of the canal slope so that the velocity would be below the limit. The step downs I’ve put in so far are drastic and are located at points where the ground slope changes. Perhaps in the final design we’ll have more step downs of less height.

    I will look into running a draw-down model but I admit that I don’t know yet what that means.

    In regards to the last comment. I’m embarrassed to say that I don’t really know what the base flows are for these culverts/drainage ways. I’m working in Brazil – the model is georeferenced to SAD69 UTM Zone 24S. I’m told that these streams/creeks/drainage ways what have you, actually have sewage from the urban areas nearby. I would assume this means there is some base flow far above the flows I’ve specified. After saying all that, I’ll be putting in some base flow. My guess at the problem is that the solving routines of HEC-RAS can’t deal with such low flows at the beginning of the simulation with such high slopes and the solutions give these wild energy grades.

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