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  • #5273
    Arthur B
    Participant

    Hello !

    I need to calculate the volume in different sections of a river for several flow values.
    HEC-RAS has no problem for low values, but concerning high values (more than the 100-year-flood) there is an error : ” Flow optimization failed to converge “.

    I’ve seen on this article ( http://hecrasmodel.blogspot.fr/2009/02/how-to-best-model-junction.html) that it may come from xs near the junction but mine are as close as possible to the junctions.

    I tried to change the maximum iteration in split flow from 30 to 60 but I’ve got the same error. ( However, volume values calculated by HEC-RAS has changed !)

    I’m lost … does anybody know what can be the cause of this error ?

    Thanks in advance.

    Arthur

    #8391
    Chris G.
    Keymaster

    You can always try a different initial flow distribution. See what RAS is heading towards while going through the optimization. If it looks like the optimization runs are converging, but just run out of iteration attempts before it could get there, then use the flow distribution of the last iteration attempt, and then rerun RAS. If the optimization runs are diverging, or going unstable (i.e. solution errors are oscillating out of control, rather than minimizing for each iteration), then you may just have a geometry that is not conducive to split flow optimization. It could be that one of the channels is so much smaller than the other, or the ground points on one of the splits are so high, that the channel wants to go dry. In that case, perhaps a pilot channel would help.

    If nothing seems to work, you can always use a stepdown scheme hotstart to let RAS determine the distribution of flow. http://hecrasmodel.blogspot.com/2010/12/how-to-create-hotstart-file-in-hec-ras.html

    good luck

    #8392
    Arthur B
    Participant

    Thank you Chris. I’ll try that and see if it works.

    #8393
    Scott La Vanne
    Participant

    Chris,

    How do you know whether a steady-flow optimization is diverging or converging? Is there an option to review the iterations?

    Thanks

    Scott

    #8394
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Scott,

    I know for Steady State the following grabs the flows for you:

    1. Open the Steady Flow Data window
    2. Click options
    3. Click Initial Split Flow Optimization (LS and pumps)
    4. Highlight the cross sections that have laterals or pumps
    5. Click Get Split Flows from Output

    There may be a similar tool for unsteady.

    – Kevin

    #8395
    Anonymous
    Guest

    did you find out how to check the values from the iteration steps?

    thanks!

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